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Bible Disproves Prolifers (No Life in the Womb)

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Language Manipulation & Lying

You will often observe how Prolifers follow through what seems like a scripted sequence:

  1. Life at conception is a scientific fact *proceeds to quote pseudoscience/bogus materials (like ACPeds or from Michael Egnor)

  2. The unborn are innocent human beings, you're killing babies *proceeds to play games with dictionaries to redefine what is not a person as a "living innocent baby/person/child", they may proceed to quote vintage dictionaries as a misdirect as 'evidence' that an embryo is a person.

  3. God says that life begins at conception *proceeds to quote English translation and correlate dubious connections, while ignoring the obvious truths what the Greek & Hebrew say

Through lying and reversing information (a quintessential hallmark of the Prolife movement), they bludgeon others with the three very things that disprove their position, which are: (1) the Bible they capitalize on English translations, (2) dictionaries they reverse and redefine what is legally and biologically considered a person, and finally (3) biology/science textbooks claiming they uphold the Prolife position which is not true.


Prolife counter-argument: the Biblical worldview says unborn are innocent human beings, this means abortion is murder.

There's nothing Biblical or sensical about prolife, at best it's a modern Quranic worldview. Here the language is explicitly tailored to reverse the meaning of the unborn as innocent human beings, babies, or children.

The phenomenon for calling it 'murder' is something that's come up only in the last 50 years or so; this begs the question why historically abortion was never seen as murder, it's a modern phenomenon (and many scientists and anthropologists will mention this).




Soul Imputation Order (No Breath, No Life)

Genesis 1:26-27 And God said: let us make man in our image after our likeness and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth. So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him, male and female created He them.

Genesis 1:26-27 וַיִּבְרָ֙א אֱלֹהִ֤ים׀ אֶת־הָֽאָדָם֙ בְּצַלְמ֔וֹ בְּצֶ֥לֶם אֱלֹהִ֖ים בָּרָ֣א אֹת֑וֹ זָכָ֥ר וּנְקֵבָ֖ה בָּרָ֥א אֹתָֽם׃ וַיֹּ֣אמֶר אֱלֹהִ֔ים נַֽעֲשֶׂ֥ה אָדָ֛ם בְּצַלְמֵ֖נוּ כִּדְמוּתֵ֑נוּ וְיִרְדּוּ֩ בִדְגַ֙ת הַיָּ֜ם וּבְע֣וֹף הַשָּׁמַ֗יִם וּבַבְּהֵמָה֙ וּבְכָל־הָאָ֔רֶץ וּבְכָל־הָרֶ֖מֶשׂ הָֽרֹמֵ֥שׂ עַל־הָאָֽרֶץ׃

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground (physical body), and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul (post creation of physical-body).

Genesis 2:7 וַיִּיצֶר֩ י__ְהוָ֙ה__ אֱלֹהִ֜ים אֶת־הָֽאָדָ֗ם עָפָר֙ מִן־הָ֣אֲדָמָ֔ה וַיִּפַּ֥ח בְּאַפָּ֖יו נִשְׁמַ֣ת חַיִּ֑ים וַֽיְהִ֥י הָֽאָדָ֖ם לְנֶ֥פֶשׁ חַיָּֽה׃


Prolife counter-argument: Adam's life couldn't have begun at conception because Adam wasn't conceived, therefore the breath of lives only applies to Adam.

Then that's implying that God creates souls inconsistently in homosapien --or-- that our souls are dependent on biological conception which is even worse. As mentioned the breath of lives is plural, this implies it's consistent and applies to all of homosapien.


Prolife counter-argument: It's saying that God breathed not that Adam took his first breath.

God doesn't have breath or even lungs; the anthropomorphism makes no sense unless it's linked up with the creature receiving the breath of lives through its first literal breath by its nostrils (which is one reason why God even made oxygen to symbolize what sustains life is invisible: you can't see your soul nor the "breath of lives"). God likes to do things in a practical and consistent nature with analogies that follow suit. In the Hebrew BREATH OF LIVES is plural, implying that this is a proces for all of humanity, not just Adam.


Prolife counter-argument: Genesis 2:7 doesn't describe normal human development: taking a passage of Adam's special creation and applying it to all humans is out of context.

Genesis 1:26-27 says that man (Adam) was created in the shadow-image of God. If we are to assume the Prolife argument that the breath of lives only applies to man (Adam), then too would God's shadow-image only apply to Adam. Ooops.

To cherry pick and say Genesis 1:26~27 does apply to everyone but Genesis 2:7 does not, is creating an inconsistency.


Prolife counter-argument: We're not told Eve had the breath of live breathed into her. There's no other verses that say the 'breath of life' applies after they're born. Her life didn't begin with God breathing life into her or her first breath.

So Eve didn't BREATHE afterwards? All biological bodies need to breathe; it is required that the body would have taken a first breath.

Genesis 6:17 (KJV) And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life (lives), from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.

Genesis 6:17 וַאֲנִ֗י הִנְנִי֩ מֵבִ֙יא אֶת־הַמַּבּ֥וּל מַ֙יִם֙ עַל־הָאָ֔רֶץ לְשַׁחֵ֣ת כָּל־בָּשָׂ֗ר אֲשֶׁר־בּוֹ֙ ר֣וּחַ חַיִּ֔ים מִתַּ֖חַת הַשָּׁמָ֑יִם כֹּ֥ל אֲשֶׁר־בָּאָ֖רֶץ יִגְוָֽע׃

Famous last words when you don't perform exegesis in the original language text. In Genesis 6:17 and in a lot of other context, the Bible is very explicit that soul life has the breath of lives. Why would the Bible need to preface EVERY verse with the breath of life when it's already understood this is in conjunction with soul life being created?

Genesis 7:22 (KJV) All in whose nostrils was the breath of life (lives), of all that was in the dry land, died.

Genesis 7:22 כֹּ֡ל אֲשֶׁר֩ נִשְׁמַת־ר֙וּחַ חַיִּ֜ים בְּאַפָּ֗יו מִכֹּ֛ל אֲשֶׁ֥ר בֶּחָֽרָבָ֖ה מֵֽתוּ׃

I suppose my question is, do Prolifers even READ the Bible? Even in translation the breath of lives is quite obvious.


Prolife counter-argument: Babies breathe in the womb.

This is a misdirection and redefintion: embryos do not 'breathe' through their nostrils and fetuses have nasal plugs that get removed WHEN they take their first breath (through their nostrils). Notice how they emphasize 'babies', an embryo of course isn't a 'baby' as they want to redefine.

The original language text is quite explicit and vivid by relating a literal first breath with your nostrils.


Prolife counter-argument: we're not dirt, Adam lacked life before he was breathed into -- but fetuses have motility so they do have life.

So we're not dirt BUT WE ARE ZYGOTES? There is neither soul life in the dirt that made Adam's body nor the sperm or egg that makes our biology: that's exactly what Genesis 1:27 & 2:7 are emphasizing. They're also misdirecting again as fetal motility doesn't exist in a zygote (and they're claiming life begins at conception... so fetal motility would then be irrelevant to zygotes).

Genesis 3:16 And to the woman He said: "I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception, in sorrow you will bring forth children and your desire will be to your husband and he will rule over you."

2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels (physical body), that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

2 Corinthians 4:7 Ἔχομεν δὲ τὸν θησαυρὸν τοῦτον ἐν ὀστρακίνοις σκεύεσιν, ἵνα ἡ ὑπερβολὴ τῆς δυνάμεως ᾖ τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ μὴ ἐξ ἡμῶν·

James 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

James' analogy of how temptation becomes sin when it's born. James doesn't say 'death begins at conception'.

2 Corinthians 5:21 For He has made Him to be sin for us who knew no sin, that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him.

Righteousness is uncreated like God, and therefore it is given.

Psalm 138:8 The LORD will perfect that which concerns me: your mercy Oh LORD, endures forever. Do not forsake the works of your own hands.

Psalm 139:11 If I say, surely the darkness will cover me; even the night will be light about me.

Psalm 139:12 Yea, the darkness does not from you, but the night shines as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to you.

Psalm 139:13 For you have possessed my reins: you have covered (saw-kak) me in my mother's womb.

Psalm 139:14 I will praise you for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are your works and that my soul knows right well.

Psalm 139:15 My substance was not hid from you, when I was made in secret and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.

Psalm 139:16 Your eyes did see my substance yet being unperfect; and in your book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned when as yet there was none of them.

Psalm 139:17 How precious also are your thoughts unto me, Oh God! How great is the sum of them!

Luke 1:15 For he will be great in the sight of the Lord and will drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother's womb.

Heb 10:4-5 For it's not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. Therefore when he comes into the world he says: sacrifice and offering you would not, but a body you have prepared for me.

Psalm 40:6 Sacrifice and offerings you did not desire, you have opened my ears. Burnt offerings and sin offerings you have not required.

Exodus 21:22-25 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

Numbers 5:11-31 And the LORD spoke to Moses saying: speak to the children of Israel and say to them: if any man's wife go aside and commit a trespass against him, and a man lie with her carnally and it be hid from the eyes of her husband and be kept close and she be defiled and there be no witness against her, neither she be taken with the manner. And the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be defiled: or if the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be not defiled. Then shall the man bring his wife unto the priest, and he shall bring her offering for her, the tenth part of an ephah of barley meal; he shall pour no oil upon it, nor put frankincense thereon; for it is an offering of jealousy, an offering of memorial, bringing iniquity to remembrance. And the priest shall bring her near, and set her before the LORD. And the priest shall take holy water in an earthen vessel; and of the dust that is in the floor of the tabernacle the priest shall take, and put it into the water. And the priest shall set the woman before the LORD, and uncover the woman's head, and put the offering of memorial in her hands, which is the jealousy offering: and the priest shall have in his hand the bitter water that causeth the curse. And the priest shall charge her by an oath, and say unto the woman, If no man have lain with thee, and if thou hast not gone aside to uncleanness with another instead of thy husband, be thou free from this bitter water that causeth the curse. But if thou hast gone aside to another instead of thy husband, and if thou be defiled, and some man have lain with thee beside thine husband. Then the priest shall charge the woman with an oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman, The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell. And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen. And the priest shall write these curses in a book, and he shall blot them out with the bitter water. And he shall cause the woman to drink the bitter water that causeth the curse: and the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter. Then the priest shall take the jealousy offering out of the woman's hand, and shall wave the offering before the LORD, and offer it upon the altar: And the priest shall take an handful of the offering, even the memorial thereof, and burn it upon the altar, and afterward shall cause the woman to drink the water. And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed. This is the law of jealousies, when a wife goeth aside to another instead of her husband, and is defiled; Or when the spirit of jealousy cometh upon him, and he be jealous over his wife, and shall set the woman before the LORD, and the priest shall execute upon her all this law. Then shall the man be guiltless from iniquity, and this woman shall bear her iniquity.

Deuteronomy 28:26 And your carcase will be meat to all fowls of the air and to the beasts of the earth; and no person shall fight them away.

2 Samuel 12:15-18 And Nathan departed unto his house. And the LORD struck the child that Uriah's wife bare unto David, and it was very sick. David therefore besought God for the child; and David fasted, and went in, and lay all night upon the earth. And the elders of his house arose, and went to him, to raise him up from the earth: but he would not, neither did he eat bread with them. And it came to pass on the seventh day, that the child died. And the servants of David feared to tell him that the child was dead: for they said, Behold, while the child was yet alive, we spake unto him, and he would not hearken unto our voice: how will he then vex himself, if we tell him that the child is dead?



English Translation Arguments

A lot of the original texts that have been translated were politically altered when the Catholic Church was translating the Greek & Hebrew into their own Latin Vulgate: therefore any changes they wanted to employ they could do so in the Vulgate, and then all of the English translations that would follow would mimic the Vulgate's political changes.

all out-from-womb verses (which you need to know, to realize how God births Christ's thinking IN you), are reversed to in-womb verses, as if life were in the womb (making God a sadist, at the expense of peace between two groups who believed the lie of life-in-womb, never bothering to check what Bible said in its inspired MSS).

'from birth' becomes 'from the womb' (and that means from inside the womb)

Luke 1:13-15 (NIV) But the angel said to him: "Do not be afraid, Zechariah; your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you are to call him John. He will be a joy and delight to you, and many will rejoice because of his birth, for he will be great in the sight of the Lord. He is never to take wine or other fermented drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even before he is born.

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Luke 1:13-15 (KJV) But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John. And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth. For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

Luke 1:13-15 εἶπεν δὲ πρὸς αὐτὸν ὁ ἄγγελος· μὴ φοβοῦ, Ζαχαρία, διότι εἰσηκούσθη ἡ δέησίς σου, καὶ ἡ γυνή σου Ἐλισάβετ γεννήσει υἱόν σοι καὶ καλέσεις τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ Ἰωάννην. καὶ ἔσται χαρά σοι καὶ ἀγαλλίασις καὶ πολλοὶ ἐπὶ τῇ γενέσει αὐτοῦ χαρήσονται. ἔσται γὰρ μέγας ἐνώπιον [τοῦ] κυρίου, καὶ οἶνον καὶ σίκερα οὐ μὴ πίῃ, καὶ πνεύματος ἁγίου πλησθήσεται ἔτι ἐκ κοιλίας μητρὸς αὐτοῦ,

Luke 1:44 (KJV) For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.

Luke 1:44 ἰδοὺ γὰρ ὡς ἐγένετο ἡ φωνὴ τοῦ ἀσπασμοῦ σου εἰς τὰ ὦτά μου, ἐσκίρτησεν ἐν ἀγαλλιάσει τὸ βρέφος ἐν τῇ κοιλίᾳ μου.

Regarding God 'knew you before you were formed'

Jeremiah 1:5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations."

Jeremiah 1:5 בְּטֶ֙רֶם (אֶצּוֹרְךָ) [אֶצָּרְךָ֤] בַבֶּ֙טֶן֙ יְדַעְתִּ֔יךָ וּבְטֶ֛רֶם תֵּצֵ֥א מֵרֶ֖חֶם הִקְדַּשְׁתִּ֑יךָ נָבִ֥יא לַגּוֹיִ֖ם נְתַתִּֽיךָ׃

For this verse to be used for Prolife makes absolutely no sense... because God is saying He knew your soul that's not RELIANT on biology, before you were born: this also applies to Adam and all angels as well.

  1. To say this is reliant ON the physical birth, means you're also excluding Adam of whom God did know before he was 'born'.

  2. This also applies to all of the angels as well who don't have biological bodies.

  3. When you die you don't take your body with you, so if the "you" was dependent on an embryo you'd cease to exist after death.

It makes absolutely no sense to read "Prolife" into this verse when God knew all souls before they were created, and continues to know all souls after their biology dies.

And you can't have it both ways: Jeremiah 1:5 needs to apply to all soul life and therefore this directly enacts on Genesis 2:7. For the sake of argument, if Jeremiah 1:5 did mean that life began at conception, then life (for Adam) would also need to begin at a dirt pile.



Legal Examples

In the event the fetus could potentially be injured it was never a State-manted issue. In the event *the woman* got injured then it became a State issue.

Exodus 21:22-23 If men are fighting and strike a pregnant woman so that she gives birth prematurely yet no injuries follow, the offender must be fined accord to the woman's husbands demands are (State is not involved) up to what is permissible. But if there's serious injury (to the woman), then a life for a life (becomes a criminal matter).

Exodus 21:22-23 וְכִֽי־יִנָּצ֣וּ אֲנָשִׁ֗ים וְנָ֙גְפ֜וּ אִשָּׁ֤ה הָרָה֙ וְיָצְא֣וּ יְלָדֶ֔יהָ וְלֹ֥א יִהְיֶ֖ה אָס֑וֹן עָנ֣וֹשׁ יֵעָנֵ֗שׁ כַּֽאֲשֶׁ֙ר יָשִׁ֤ית עָלָיו֙ בַּ֣עַל הָֽאִשָּׁ֔ה וְנָתַ֖ן בִּפְלִלִֽים׃ וְאִם־אָס֖וֹן יִהְיֶ֑ה וְנָתַתָּ֥ה נֶ֖פֶשׁ תַּ֥חַת נָֽפֶשׁ׃



When Prolife Champions Misery

Does any of that sound like the "sanctity of life" to you? They create scenarios that remove your freedom and create misery, and reverse that as being moral and supporting life when it does the exact opposite. Most everything in the Prolife movement is about lying and reversing.

I'm thoroughly convinced that because they lie

God Sanctioning Abortion and Miscarriages

2 Kings 8:12-14 And Hazael said, Why weepeth my lord? And he answered, Because I know the evil that thou wilt do unto the children of Israel: their strong holds wilt thou set on fire, and their young men wilt thou slay with the sword, and wilt dash their children, and rip up their women with child. And Hazael said, But what, is thy servant a dog, that he should do this great thing? And Elisha answered, The LORD hath shewed me that thou shalt be king over Syria. So he departed from Elisha, and came to his master; who said to him, What said Elisha to thee? And he answered, He told me that thou shouldest surely recover.

Isaiah 13:17-18 Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, which shall not regard silver; and as for gold, they shall not delight in it. Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eye shall not spare children.

Hosea 9:14-16 Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters. Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.

Exodus 21:22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.

Fetus is not a legal human being.



Prochoice or Godchoice?

While the Bible places little concern on physical abortion due to the fact God authors all life (Revelation 22:13); there is the issue of mental abortion whereby the person in question is excluding God -- and that includes decision making (which ironically could include whether or not to have an abortion) or the very issue of salvation or post-salvation. In other words, the issues shift from being 'prochoice' to acutally being 'Godchoice' in all faculties.

Luke 8:12 Those by the road side are they that hear; then comes the devil, and takes away the Word out of their hearts, in case they should believe and be saved.

Luke 8:12 οἱ δὲ παρὰ τὴν ὁδόν εἰσιν οἱ ἀκούσαντες, εἶτα ἔρχεται ὁ διάβολος καὶ αἴρει τὸν λόγον ἀπὸ τῆς καρδίας αὐτῶν, ἵνα μὴ πιστεύσαντες σωθῶσιν.

Matthew 13:13 "Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand."

Matthew 13:13 διὰ τοῦτο ἐν παραβολαῖς αὐτοῖς λαλῶ, ὅτι βλέποντες οὐ βλέπουσιν καὶ ἀκούοντες οὐκ ἀκούουσιν οὐδὲ συνίουσιν,



When Enough isn't Enough

At first glance it may seem like the goal of the Prolife movement is to simply "stop the murdering of babies", which of course as we know 'babies' have to be born first TO even be murdered, which no sane person would do. Deeper underneath we find anyone who is Prolife has a lot of underlying rot that would persist even if the impossible occurred and abortions were banned globally.

In other words, their satiation doesn't stop at banning abortion, they want total reduction of freedom.

  1. Those who are Prolife disregard individuals who don't subscribe to the same beliefs that they do. So if Prolife individual [X] has religious beliefs [ABC], they will immediately discard and attack Prochoice [Y] for having non-religious beliefs [DEF] based on that fact. Everyone has the right of privacy and freedom to what they want to believe.

  2. The movement of 'Prolife' encompasses those who are ADDICTED to crusading and judging. So if they're not bludgeoning someone with Prolife, they're bludgeoning someone with something else. Their ultimate end goal is to bludgeon others and restrict freedom, banning abortion is a bit of a facad. If abortion was banned they'd move right on to the next topic to bludgeon everyone with. This is why MAGA, Trump, and conservative Christianity are often carefully packaged together.

  3. Because everyone in Prolife uses dishonest and misdirection techniques to argue their point, this bleeds into their personal life. If they're dishonest with one thing, they're going to be dishonest in everything else, too.

  4. Lying is the main tenant for Prolifers; and the entirety of their arguments are based on lies. The more they normalize lying, the more they'll perform this in their daily life without noticing it.

  5. The Prolife movement has the desire to invert what is natural and make these inversions seem 'moral'. You could indeed argue that it's 'moral' to force pregnancies, but enforcing morality becomes immoral.

  6. The Prolife movement wants to reduce freedom of the invidual and ensure any mistakes compound themselves into concentrated misery. If a teenager accidentally gets pregnant and they're too young to handle it or raise a kid, wouldn't abortion be the best course of action? Otherwise you end up having a baby raising a baby, and this accomplishes nothing productive in life. It ruins both the life of the teenager and brings in another life to ruin.


When Prolifers Devolve

If you spend enough time debating with a Prolifer, you may notice that some of them unfortunately devolve into monsters and show their true colours. They'll start accusing you of: racism, nazism, (...) and not realize that by doing so they support the very thing they're trying to reverse ONTO YOU.


Prolifer counter-argument: "Well I believe in God" (implying that they assume God is Prolife and therefore they have a license to abandon critical thinking, not that God would ever want anyone to abandon critical thinking)

Okay but how do you know if 'Prolife' is what God says:

  1. If God gave us the ability to have freedom of thought, including WRONG beliefs: how do you truly know if God's stance is Prolife? Exegesis in the original language texts proves Prolife is not compatible with it, only in English translation and petty logic with a predisposed bias can you see it as "Prolife".

  2. If every major religion is Prolife and we are to assume (as Christians) that Satan authored religion, where does that put you? Most Christians (especially Christian Nationalists) believe doctrines that are parallel to Islam, while adding some that make it even worse to society than many of the things they complain about Islam, while selling it in God's name.

  3. If Satan placates to our morality and comes 'as an Angel of light', doesn't Prolife fit this bill perfectly? At first glance you could say it's moral to 'save the lives of others', but there is no soul life in an embryo. So instead that morality turns to pure evil, even going so far to sacrifice the mother in favour of something that has no soul yet.


What Does Prolife Make God?

Here's a list of what were to happen if we were to assume that both God existed and God were Prolife:


  1. The Prolife God would not be the God of the Bible (sorry to dissapoint, Christian Nationalists!). It would be one whose texts support the ideology such as the Qur'an.

  2. The Prolife God murders through stillbirths as the 'God' has no choice but to obey the limitations of biology.

  3. The Prolife God contradictingly made sex recreational and feel good, but it must ONLY ever be used for reproductive purposes.

  4. The Prolife God requires minions for all bidding.

  5. The Prolife God would support mental illness of followers.

  6. The Prolife God is all about hypocrisy: tell others to forcefully give birth, but never adopt or lift a finger of your own.

  7. The Prolife God absolutely hates women. Their sole purpose is for reproduction, they need to sacrifice their lives for the embryo regardless of how that fertilization occurred.

  8. The Prolife God sponsors rape & abuse because it's more important that the holy embryos always come to term no matter what. The Prolife God has no control once fertilization occurs.

  9. The Prolife God is limited by biology rather than being an infinite being beyond biology and directly controlling whose souls get invented.

  10. The Prolife God does not honour freedom... that we're now currently able to exhibit.

  11. The Prolife God is small. Unable prevent murdering in stillbirths, requiring minions, championing every major sin (lying, dishonesty, hypocrisy, restricting freedom, vindictiveness...)

Now that certainly doesn't sound like a 'loving (infinite) God', it carries all of the qualities Satan champions for.



The Prolifer's Conundrum

Despite Prolifers wanting to control the world, they will always have to contend with these 'problems':

  1. Non-consensual sex will always occur.

  2. Stillbirths will always occur.

  3. Pregnancy complications will always occur.

  4. Unfit parents will always occur.

  5. Children abandoned and unable to be adopted will always occur (look at all of the poverty in the world for crying out loud).

  6. Dishonesty, lying and misdirection must be employed for nearly every Prolife argument.

Banging the drum, screaming at others, extreme activism, using violence to burn down abortion clinics and harass doctors -- none of this will change reality. Yet they will continue to embarass themselves because they want to placate to their emotion and zealotry. You THINK you're doing something for a 'good cause' but you've failed to audit the nature of what activism you've sponsored... not that activism is generally productive (the climate activists who threw soup at Vincent van Gogh's painting accomplished nothing) when you could be studying God's words in the original languages instead.

Truth doesn't need activisim, had Prolife been a valid concept certifiable through science and the Bible nobody would need to become an activist.



Life Begins BEFORE Conception?

Recently some in the Prolife movement have taken it a step further to say that life begins even BEFORE conception, and therefore 'birth control is abortion' 🙄. The premise of this falls apart because sperm are constantly dying inside the testes and womens' eggs naturally die off over time.

Deuteronomy 7:14 is taken out of context implying that all males are always going to be fertile (which isn't going to happen, so the work-around logic is that it becomes YOU'RE fault if you're somehow sterile). Genesis 2:24's "one flesh" is taken out of context to mean having a child: except the Hebrew (לְבָשָׂ֥ר אֶחָֽד) really says "to become (like) one flesh", not literal.

These people also (predictably) then say sex is ONLY to be had ONE TIME during the month solely for reproduction, and once the woman is pregnant you are not to engage in sex becuase that's killing sperm that have lives. Um okay, but what about all of the other sperm that die which don't fertilize the egg "during that one time"? The whole premise is completely WHACKO. All of these stupid 'Christian' ideas about when life begins are the very definition of castles in the sky. This is of course why atheists take nothing the Christians say seriously IT DEFIES COMMON LOGIC.



A Warning to Christians

Remember... God respects the freedom of everyone, so we are given the ability to believe in lies if we want them, you are responsible for what you believe not God or anybody else. Anyone who subscribes to Prolife wants to believe in it regardless of what the Bible says and that's the problem. Overriding your own beliefs from what God says in the original languages ultimately means you're not really interested in God, you want religion.

Don't go on with the nonsense of "well I'm rightly dividing the word", everyone who ever lived assumed they're 'rightly dividing the word' even when they weren't, that's why denominations get nearly everything wrong as they never feel the need to correct errors that have become part of their belief system. Two big giveaways are: first the need to announce to everyone that you're rightly dividing the word and therefore clearly correct, someone who's a scholar won't have the urge to incessantly announce this just like someone in God's system doesn't need to announce to people "well I'll be praying for you" whenever they feel threatened. The second: those who claim they're rightly dividing the word usually always have beliefs that contradict common sense and what's observable in nature.

If you continue to sell ideologies in God's name which have nothing to do with God, you will be held responsible for it. Many atheists now think the Bible actually supports 'Prolife' because of Christians who are supposedly experts in the book they claim to believe, but never read:

Exodus 20:7 "You should not misuse the name of the Lord your God: for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless that takes his name in vain."

Exodus 20:7 לֹ֥א תִשָּׂ֛א אֶת־שֵֽׁם־יְהוָ֥ה אֱלֹהֶ֖יךָ לַשָּׁ֑וְא כִּ֣י לֹ֤א יְנַקֶּה֙ יְהוָ֔ה אֵ֛ת אֲשֶׁר־יִשָּׂ֥א אֶת־שְׁמ֖וֹ לַשָּֽׁוְא׃ פ

If you continue to judge and bludgeon others, then God will judge you in the exact same way:

Matthew 7:1-3 don't judge, so that you (are) not judged. For in what you judge, you will be judged (with): and in what measure you measure (against others), it will be measured (back) to you. And why perceive the splinter that's in your brother's eye, but not observe the log that's in your own eye?

Matthew 7:1-3 Μὴ κρίνετε, ἵνα μὴ κριθῆτε. ἐν ᾧ γὰρ κρίματι κρίνετε κριθήσεσθε, καὶ ἐν ᾧ μέτρῳ μετρεῖτε μετρηθήσεται ὑμῖν. τί δὲ βλέπεις τὸ κάρφος τὸ ἐν τῷ ὀφθαλμῷ τοῦ ἀδελφοῦ σου, τὴν δὲ ἐν τῷ σῷ ὀφθαλμῷ δοκὸν οὐ κατανοεῖς;

These warnings are no joke. If you claim to be an ambassador for God, lie against His Word while saying it's what He says, attack everyone in your vicinity, behave childishly... all of these warnings will come flying and smack you in the face. You will have no excuse because it's what you wanted to do, and God granted you the freedom to do it.



References

Here's some of the Prolife-related websites I used as a reference to build my paraphrased arguments. Be warned that they are allergic to original language texts and selective about arguments as to avoid the ones that obviously contradict... and then of course lie and say everyone else is contradicting themselves.









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